Updated for Update 2
The real power of legendary items lies in legacies: class-specific bonuses designed to amplify your class skills and traits. Which legacies appear on a given item are random, drawn from the major and minor categories (formerly pools) for the item’s class and type at identification and reforge.
New in Update 2 is the ability to replace a legacy with one taken from another legendary item. This means it is now possible to build a legendary item with the legacies you want. Let’s take a closer look.
Legacies on ID
When you identify an legendary item at a forge-master, you get 3 random legacies from the major category for that item (see Legacies by Class). Each legacy modifies a class skill or trait. While you can now replace class legacies, you'll save yourself some effort if you start with an LI that has at least some of the major legacies you want.Each legacy has a tier (1 to 6, represented by icons) and a rank (varies, usually 1 to 9). Until you are familiar with the tier icons, hover over the icon to see the tier. The tier represents the quality of the legacy - the higher the tier, the fewer legacy points are required per rank. As you increase ranks, the magnitude of the legacy effect increases.
Legacies on Reforge
Every 10 IXP levels, you must reforge your legendary item before it can continue to gain IXP. If the item being reforged is level 10, 20 or 30, you will be given a choice of two new legacies to add, usually from the item’s minor category. There is still a small chance of getting a major legacy on reforge.If the item is level 40 or higher, on reforge you will be given a choice of two existing legacies to upgrade. Upgrading a legacy raises its tier, which means it will require fewer legacy points to rank up. Focus on your most important legacies first.
Scrolls of Empowerment
Another way to upgrade the tier of a legacy is to apply a Scroll of Empowerment (for LIs level 65 and below) or a Lesser Scroll of Empowerment (for LIs 6o and below). These scrolls will raise the tier of the selected legacy by one.While you’ll get these as rewards for completing chapters of the Volume 2, Book 9 Epiloque and Volume 3, Books 1 and 2 of the epic story, you can barter for more:
- Lesser Scroll of Empowerment
- 816 skirmish marks at any skirmish camp
- 75 Medallions of Lothlorien in Caras Galadhon (Lothlorien)
- Scroll of Empowerment
- 1950 skirmish marks at any skirmish camp
- 1560 skirmish marks + 1 Superior Third Mark at any skirmish camp
- 75 Medallions of Dol Guldur in Ost Galadh (Mirkwood)
- 70 Silver Tokens + 35 Gold Tokens of the Wild at Lhanuch or Harndirion (Enedwaith)
- 50 Medallions of North-men at Harndirion (Enedwaith)
Legacy Replacement Scrolls
Legacy replacement scrolls come in two flavors: class specific legacies and stat legacies.Class Specific Legacies
You can replace an unwanted legacy with another class legacy of the same class, type (melee weapon, ranged weapon or class item) and category (major or minor), by applying a class-specific legacy replacement scroll. The replacement legacy will start at tier 2.To create a legacy replacement scroll, you must deconstruct an LI that has the desired legacy and has been leveled to at least IXP level 30. You will be prompted to choose a legacy to extract and will receive a scroll with that legacy in decon results. There are some level restrictions, though:
- An equip Level 51-59 Legendary item yields a Legacy scroll useable up to level 60
- An equip Level 60-64 Legendary item yields a Legacy scroll useable up to level 65
- An equip Level 65 Legendary item yields a Legacy scroll useable up to level 70
Stat Legacies
You can also replace any legacy with a Legacy of Lesser [Stat] (for LIs level 60 and below, starts at Tier 2) or a Legacy of [Stat] (for LIs 65 and below, starts at Tier 4). The stats available are Agility, Fate, Might, Vitality and Will.Again, you’ll get a couple of these as rewards for completing chapters of the Volume 2, Book 9 Epiloque and Volume 3, Books 1 and 2 of the epic story. You can also barter for more:
- Legacy of Lesser [Stat]
- 25 Medallions of Moria in Twenty-first Hall (Moria)
- Legacy of [Stat]
- 25 Medallions of Dol Guldur in Ost Galadh (Mirkwood)
- 15 Medallions of North-men at Harndirion (Enedwaith)





11 comments:
Great update thanks, you make a potentially confusing topic easy to understand. Keep up the good work :)
whats price of scroll of emprovement on your server?
nimrodel-about 18-20g sometimes even more up to 25g per scroll
I've seen them go as low at 10g on Riddermark. Just remember, if Update 2 goes live with scrolls of empowerment being sold for 295 TP (the test price), I'd expect the price to drop. That's a big if - everything on test is subject to change.
Wow, you can transfer minstrel legacies to captain items?!
since when is 'Heal Threat Down' on any captain LIs?
The screenshot is from Bullroarer (of course!), so expect stuff like that to be cleaned up before the update hits live.
You can't transfer legacies to an item that the legacy cannot be normally found on (captain emblem legacy cannot go on captain weapon for example).
LI changes are a bit more than what I thought they would be. These changes are really going to affect the grind aspects of the system. We'll be able to swap out legacies, but new LIs will be limited to 6 legacies. There are fewer relic tiers, but the relics themselves have been changed too. In addition, there's the new LI currency called shards. 1st age level 65s can be crafted, but require an item from the new raid. Going to take some time to get used to these changes!
I was glad to see an updated to relics in yesterday's Bullroarer patch. My feeling was the new relic system wasn't quite baked yet, so I was holding off on doing a Managing Your Relics article.
Might want to add that it looks like skill legacy replacement scrolls will be able to be purchased from the LOTRO store.
Can legacies from third age weapons be extracted and put in second age weapons? Is the weapon level break still <60 and 61 - 65 for the legacy replacement?
In my testing, I was able to take a skill from a level 60 third age and apply it to a level 65 second age, but I've also read about the weapon level ranges elsewhere. They are not mentioned in the dev diary, so they could have been in the original build and removed in a patch. My plan is to go back and test all of the possible combinations.
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